These pants were better than I expected for the price that is for sure. So these have a heavier weight but at the same time don't overheat you in the summer. They give you plenty of room for knee pads under them. The reinforced knees are a great addition. Now there is a LOT of velcro on these which is good and bad. Its nice because it does keep all your items secure but we all know velcro will wear out over time. Also if you are using these to trek around in woodsball they will protect your legs from a lot of the sharp stuff but they will show wear on the fabric rather quickly from abrasions. The material has not torn yet which is great but is getting a white look where it is rubbing on brush. So yes good pants but not perfect.
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